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The new Mac Minis have super fast SSD Drives. I measured read times of 2500MB/s which is 5 times faster than the SSD drive in my old mac mini. But these drives are super super expensive. (An extra US$1400 for a 2TB drive). So I thought it might be an option to buy a Mac Mini with a small internal drive (256GB) and add an external SSD drive and combine them into a fusion drive. It didn’t work!
But I thought I ‘d write a post in case anyone else has the same idea. Disk SpeedsHere are the read speeds of various drive configurations measured with Black Magic disk test:Old Mac Mini (2012):Internal SSD drive: 480Mb/s:New Mac Mini T2 2018:Internal SSD: 2500Mb/sExternal (USB-C) SSD: 530Mb/sThe new Mac Minis are much faster, but I was interested in the speed difference between the internal SSD and external SSD.
It is so significant that this would be an ideal situation to make a fusion drive. A fusion drive was designed by Apple to ‘fuse’ an SSD drive to a slower spinning drive to ‘speed it up.’ The writes are done to the SSD, and the most used files are kept on the SSD. Then files are copied between the SSD and the slower drive in the background.
So imagine being able to make an Fusion drive with a fast and a slow SSD. Making a Fusion Drive.Here’s how I made a fusion Drive:Firstly I had to boot from the internet recovery partition. (Reboot and hold down Apple-R).I plugged in my Samsung T5 drive and combined with the internal SSD drive of the Mac Mini to form a new Fusion Drive.
The Fusion Drive is blank so you then need to reinstall OS X onto it. The instructions are here:here. In summary, firstly you need to run this command below to find out the names of your drives:diskutil listThen you combine both drives into one substituting the numbers that you found above:diskutil coreStorage create FUSION /dev/disk1 /dev/disk2Then you need to create the drive volume:diskutil cs createVolume logicalvolumegroup jhfs+ Macintosh HD 100%After that you just format the drive as APFS, and install OSX. This gives the Fusion Drive a recovery partition and everything ready to go. What worked, and what didn’t.Well the drive seemed to work. The Internal Mac Mini SSD drive speed was 2500MB/s. The Samsung T5 SSD was 530MB/s.
My newly created fusion drive was 2700!This is the original internal SSD from the new Mac Mini: Internal SSDExternal Samsung T5 SSD Fusion drive made with Internal SSD and External SSD.Not only is the Fusion drive as fast as the Internal SSD (which is what I would expect), it’s actually FASTER!!! The fusion drive must be reading and writing from BOTH drives simultaneously. They had plenty of free space so this makes sense.So what didn’t work? Well the computer was completely unstable. Random restarts. Crashing halfway through installing OS X. Disk Utility crashing.
There was some crazy deep level conflict that meant the Mac just wouldn’t run properly! I rang Apple support and they talked me through splitting and re-makign the fusion drive but it was still unstable.So in the end I had to split my fusion drive back into two separate drives.If you use the Mojave command “diskutil resetFusion” to try to fuse 2 SSD drives it says that you can only create a Fusion drove from an SSD and a HDD. ConclusionWith PCIe hard drives been so expensive it makes complete sense for Apple to allow Fusion drives made with a PCIe SSD combined with slower cheaper SSD.
I’m not sure why this didn’t work. IF you try to make a fusion drive in Mojave with the Apple say they only support fusion of an SSD with a Hard disk drive.I’d love to hear if anyone else has had success with this. Leave message below if you do!UPDATE 13th Jan 2018: Yesterday I tried making a fusion drive from the internal Mac Mini drive and an external Seagate FAST SSD drive. It worked flawlessly installing Mac OSX up until the point where I rebooted, then it went into an endless repeating grey screen loop and never got to the desktop! Hi Salomon,I’ve been running with the same issue earlier today, I am using a 1TB 970 eco to create a fusion drive with 128GB apple’s NVME SSD. Yes I’ve read that the first drive needs to be the faster of the two because that’s what core storage assumes.My understanding is thatdisk0 is the whole hard diskdisk0s2 is the volumeSo are you saying that using the Volume `diskutil cs create “fusion” disk0s2 disk1s2` instead of the disk disk0 disk1 might be more stable?Apple’s instructions specifically say to use the drive identifier. ” In the IDENTIFIER column, find the identifier for each of the two internal, physical drives that make up your Fusion Drive.
Usually the identifiers are disk0 and disk1. ” See also here.
Apple manual says this:” create createLVG lvgName devices Create a CoreStorage logical volume group. Thedisks specified will become the (initial) set ofphysical volumes; more than one may be specified.You can specify partitions (which will be re-typedto be AppleCoreStorage) or whole-disks (which willbe partitioned as GPT and will contain anAppleCoreStorage partition).
The resulting LVGUUID can then be used with createVolume below. Allexisting data on the drive(s) will be lost.
Owner-ship of the affected disk is required.”. I have a late 2012 iMac 27”, originally with 3 TB Fusion Drive. Seagate HDD failed twice. Once I replaced it under warranty and the second time I acted before it was too late. I ordered parts from OWC and had a faulty HDD replaced with Samsung 860 EVO 2 TB SSD.
I had a Time Machine backup done in advance.Initially I wanted to use Migration Assistant to restore Applications, Other Folders and Computer/Network Settings to Apple 128 Gb SSD and then restore my home folder to Samsung SSD. But it didn’t work out as I expected. Previously all applications were grouped in folders in Launch Pad and I had applets in the top bar. After the restoration all the applications are ungrouped and none of the applets is running.
Besides, Migration Assistant does not allow you to choose a destination drive.I thought I would go to Settings/Users and Groups and manually change the path for my home folder to Samsung SSD. But I couldn’t complete the operation as the Settings app froze.I know Fusion Drive is not supposed to run on two SSDs but I see no way to easily move Fusion Drive backup to two SSDs and have a functional system.So I manually recreated Fusion Drive with two SSDs in terminal and now I am restoring from a Time Machine backup.
If anyone can tell me how to restore System, Applications and Settings to a blade SSD and restore user data to a second SSD I would gladly do it. I faced insurmountable problems and there are really posts on how to do it.
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I don’t know how stable this setup will be. I have found it best to keep your User folder on the boot drive. You can still put most of your Documents on an external second SSD though. Your documents don’t need to be in your user folder.
You can move your iPhoto library to an external drive, and your iTunes folder, and your movies, and your entire Documents folder. I have 190GB on my boot disk, that’s the internal SSD. Basically the system, the apps, the desktop folder, and some application data that doesn’t like to be outside of the user home folder the desktop, but most applications allow you to store your data somewhere other than the user folder. My external SSD has 450GB used. Keep the folder structure of your user folder (e.g.
Keep a ‘Documents’ folder and a ‘Music’ folder). Just move all the data out of them to your external drive. I read some how-tos and understood I was not moving the home folder correctly. So I attempted to do it again. In the process, I benchmarked the Fusion Drive as it is now (Apple SSD 128 Gb and Samsung EVO 860 2 TB) by Black Magic and Amorphous DiskMark. You get a warning when attempting to create Fusion Drive from 2 SSDs, I had to do it manually.
I also discovered what others mentioned that Apple enables TRIM command only on Apple SSDs, not on third-party SSDs so EVO 860 did not have TRIM enabled as Mojave assumed it is a platter disk. You have to manually enable TRIM for non-Apple disks.In the end, I move the home folder to any external drive, create a backup and set up Apple SSD as boot and EVO 860 as the home folder drive. I ran benchmarks again and was surprised that EVO 860 is faster than Apple SSD!
All the talk about built-in SSD being faster than SATA SSDs is all wrong. If I knew that I would keep the original backup of the Fusion Drive and restore it exclusively to Samsung EVO 860 drive. No need to move the home folder. There is no speed gain to achieve. Still, I met some new problems. I have Wi-Fi no hardware installed. Wi-Fi works in Recovery mode but after a normal boot.
Resetting PRAM and SMC did not help. Wi-Fi does not work in Safe mode or in any other user account. Also, Books database is corrupt and I cannot reset it. So I am back to square one and will have to reinstall Mojave again, this time on EVO 860 with the home folder on it.
Hi, under CatalinaI typed the: diskutil resetFusion command and although it gave a ‘heads up’ that this was a Fusion with two SSD’s and therefore ‘not standard’ it said it was perfectly ok to do so. I did this because it’s a ‘no hassle’ solution to create one APFS container from two internal physical drives. I’ll keep you all posted on the process. I ran into a lot of problems with my AppleRaid 0 setup under Catalina, so I decided to ditch it. The Raid is perfectly doable but the file-integrity check for perfectly normal.dmg downloads constantly failed and auto-updating failed too, also I had write speed issues I didn’t have under previous versions of MacOS.What I do NOT like about the CoreStorage solution is (which has the same fail rate as RAID 0 I guess) is the absolute decline in speed. With two Samsung EVO 85’s the r/w-speed now is 500/500-ish and it was 1000/1000. This is an apple created problem and I don’t know why they won’t allow it on OSX after high sierra.I also have a 2014 mac mini with a fusion drive.
I replaced the HDD and put in an SSD. I was able to install High Sierra and it works fine with 256MB PCIe and an SSD (replacing the original HDD).I was able to partition and split the drive in bootcamp to install windows 10.But if I try to upgrade to Catalina I get a error saying my disk configuration is not supported.There is no reason for this not to work since it works with High Sierra.
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